SHIT. I hadn’t consciously made the connection between the fact that Loki is always overlooked and ignored when he speaks and the fact that he’s put in that muzzle at the end of Avengers. I always thought that bit was a link to the bit from Norse mythology where he had his mouth sewn up as punishment for teasing some dude (details elude me right now).
This makes sense.
And makes so many more feels.
It’s like the ultimate insult to him.
I feel like this entire phenomenon of “SHUT UP LOKI NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO YOU”, besides the sort of mean chuckle at his expense that makes me feel guilty, is fascinating. With giant angst potential that explains a lot about how Loki looks at himself and why he snaps.
No, seriously. Imagine that this sort of thing has been going on for hundreds or thousands of years. Whenever Loki opens his mouth to speak, or share an opinion, or make a suggestion, or voice an objection, there’s a good chance he’ll basically get told he’s insignificant or irrelevant or reprehensible or just flat out wrong. Stop talking. Yeah, he’s a manipulative little shit, but seriously. His words are his biggest source of power. He’s not an up front fighter—his forte lies through persuasion and the ability to reason people into the decisions that suit him. And he’s perpetually being told “YOUR ABILITIES ARE WORTHLESS, GTFO WE DON’T WANT YOU”. So even the thing he thought he was good at is being undermined.
Extra bonus points if you incorporate canon mythology and the “sew his lips up” punishment. I mean just DAMN. Physical pain and the approval of his father in that sentence aside, that literally, physically denies his right to assert or defend himself. He completely loses his voice. He’s basically having it hammered home that people would rather not hear him at all, would rather pretend he’s not there, and he can’t even count on his family to disagree.
It’s just unbelievably fucked up.
Oh god, all my feels, I can’t-
I read this theory, that the reason the Norse Gods disliked Loki so much was that Loki spoke freely. He reminded the gods of all their blunders and dumb ideas and mistakes whenever he could, and the gods didn’t particularly like to be reminded of their less-than-god-like moments.
Basically, he was the guy who told people when they were stupid and no one digs that, yeah, but only actually stupid people respond with violence.
Yeah, but keep in mind WHY his lips get sewn shut in mythology.
He cutted of Sif’s hair (theories say before that she cheated on Thor. Either with Loki directly and then told him he’s not as good as Thor and Loki got pissy but couldn’t tell his friend, or she cheated on thor with another man and Loki caught her and wanted to show his best friend what his wife had done. In both case he cut off her hair (a punishment for those that commited adultery in some areas) but Thor (being not the brighted candle in the chandelier), not getting the hint, forced Loki to make up for the damage. So Loki went and found some dwarves (sons of ivaldi) that made a wig of gold for Sif that would replace her normal hair. They also made Gungnir (Odin’s spear) and Skidbladnir (Frey’s ship). On his way home Loki came across another dwarf and boasted how awesome the gifts for the gods he god from the sons of ivaldi were and that there were none things better. The dwarf, Brokk and his brother eitri felt insulted by that statement and betted with Loki they could create some even more awesome things. Loki betted his head. (Loki thought the dwarves meant the metaphor for one’s head’s weight in gold, when they said they wanted his head should he lose)
They went and created Draupnir (Odin’s ring from which regulary rings of equal value and size drop off), Gullinbursti (Frey’s warboar) and Mjölnir. Loki, in the form of a nasty horsefly tried to mess up the creation of all three (worrying he might have to pay the gold), but only particular succeeded at Mjölnir, that’s why the hammer in mythology has such a short handle.
Loki and Brokk went to Asgard and the gods rejoiced over the gifts and ultimately found Mjölnir to be the best of all.
Only then did Brokk reveal that he meant it literally when he wanted Loki’s head, but Loki, clever bastard that he is stated that ‘Brokk can dearly have his head, but is not allowed to harm his neck, as that wasn’t included in the bet’. Brokk, enraged and rather humilated by that then went and sewed Loki’s mouth shut, so he could never again use that lieing tongue of his.
Loki later ripped our the string, though.
Yes, I know the story, but the point is that Loki got out of trouble with words. He got out of it with his head by talking, so they sewed his mouth shut. It has a symbolic meaning, i.e he’s not allowed to talk, and talking is how he operates, how he functions, how he fights his fights.